Governor rebuild

Andrus · Member

Governor rebuild

Mike(NEOhio) · Senior Member

What needs to be done? Is it the ball type governor? There isn't much to go wrong besides normal wear.

Andrus · Member

Hi Mike, Thanks for replying. The engine has two speeds, slow and really fast. I've tightened up the linkage and replaced the spring on the governor to no avail. I move the throttle up and it still runs at idle speed until suddenly the engine starts roaring at high RPM's. It's as if something is sticking, then suddenly lets go. Does that make any sense?

Thanks

Andy

Mike(NEOhio) · Senior Member

Sounds to me like your governor needs a good adjustment. Do you have a manual? I find that most governors are not right. My E-4 used to do what yours does just not as bad. Under load I would have to keep bumping up the throttle then when the load came off it would run away. Same thing on my Ford until I finally got it right. I&T manual explains how to set it up. As long as it's not worn too sloppy and the lever shaft doesn't bind it should work OK. Click the links below to download a Buda factory manual for gas engines.

I can scan the governor section from my manual if you need it.

-- Edited by Mike(NEOhio) on Saturday 13th of September 2014 06:17:44 PM

Andrus · Member

Hi Mike,

That sounds like good advice, and it's certainly worth a try before getting the thing rebuilt. Unfortunately the link to the Buda manual doesn't work. I t says the link has been disabled. If you can scan the pages for the governor for me I'd be much obliged, but if it's a lot of work, I can probably get the information from one of the outfits that reprint old manuals.

Thanks,

Andy

Mike(NEOhio) · Senior Member

You're the second one this week that can't open the links. This happened once before. I'll try to get them reset.

Mike(NEOhio) · Senior Member

Andy,

Try these. If they don't download cut and paste the link into your browser.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/floqqcvxk50zsnu/Budamanual_1thru27.pdf?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mogzhvwvc527xam/Budamanual_28thru54.pdf?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fnr3oyalufp4i8o/Budamanual_lastpg.pdf?dl=0

-- Edited by Mike(NEOhio) on Saturday 13th of September 2014 06:18:11 PM

-- Edited by Mike(NEOhio) on Saturday 13th of September 2014 06:19:28 PM

Andrus · Member

Mike, Thanks very much for that Buda manual, it's just what I need! Very helpful.

Best,

Andy

Mike(NEOhio) · Senior Member

I had to re-establish the links. I'm glad it worked. I don't recall if that manual shows the flyball governor that Cockshutt used. The housings have Cockshutt part numbers which makes me think they put their own governors on. Let me know here or by PM and I can send you the part from the I&T manual if you don't have it.

Mike(NEOhio) · Senior Member

Andy,

How are you doing with that governor? Did the adjustment help? I'm rebuilding my E4 engine and got new bearings and seal for the governor lever shaft. Bearings are KOYO-Torrington B-610 needs 2. I got an SKF seal number 3683 (or equivalent in National or CR) and don't forget there is a 3/16 inch steel ball under the lever shaft to keep the fork aligned with the thrust bearing. Easy to loose if you don't know it's there. Drop it in the lower bearing before you install the shaft.

ikeever · Veteran Member

I know a guy who rebuilds these. Fixed the 50 surging problem I had for years. Let me know if you need his information.

razmosis · Member

Mike,

I dont suppose I could bother you for the manuals you shared in these links? My Dad has a 1952 E4 and weve been scratching our heads on the linkage setup all Summer. Hes getting pretty nervous about Winter coming and his Cockshutt not being ready to plow.

i know this is an old post, just hoping you'll still see it.

thank you.